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Does Romans 9 teach Predestination for some or Salvation for All?

May 26, 2021 By admin

Many take Romans 9 to say that God has chosen some people to be saved and others to be lost without any will or choice of their own. They call this predestination. So let’s take a deeper look at this chapter and see for ourselves. We will let the Bible explain itself. 

With Christ as my witness, I speak with utter truthfulness. My conscience and the Holy Spirit confirm it. My heart is filled with bitter sorrow and unending grief for my people, my Jewish brothers and sisters. I would be willing to be forever cursed—cut off from Christ!—if that would save them. Romans 9:1-3 NLT 

Wow! This is amazing. Paul would rather be eternally lost rather than see his community perish. This reminds me of Moses’ prayer in Exodus 32:32. It reminds me of Jesus being willing to die the second death in order to save the world. I have to ask myself if I love those I give Bible studies to this much? I can only imagine that such love must really change lives. By is Paul so concerned about his fellow Jews? 

They are the people of Israel, chosen to be God’s adopted children. God revealed his glory to them. He made covenants with them and gave them his law. He gave them the privilege of worshiping him and receiving his wonderful promises. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.  Well then, has God failed to fulfill his promise to Israel? No, for not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God’s people! Being descendants of Abraham doesn’t make them truly Abraham’s children. For the Scriptures say, “Isaac is the son through whom your descendants will be counted,” though Abraham had other children, too. This means that Abraham’s physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham’s children.  For God had promised, “I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.” This son was our ancestor Isaac. When he married Rebekah, she gave birth to twins. But before they were born, before they had done anything good or bad, she received a message from God. (This message shows that God chooses people according to his own purposes; he calls people, but not according to their good or bad works.) She was told, “Your older son will serve your younger son.” Romans 9:4-12 NLT 

Paul is concerned because not all of his fellow Jews have accepted Christ. Yet they think they are God’s special people just because they are Jews and Abraham is their father.  In John 8:31-59 Jesus told the Pharisees that the real children of Abraham are the ones who believe in Him as the Messiah. There was nothing special about being a Jew or a descendant of Abraham apart from the promised Messiah.  Paul shares a similar message with the Galatians in Galatians 4:21-31. In this passage Paul tells us that Hagar represents bondage to legalism and works while the child of promise, Isaac, represents those who believe in God’s promise and accept salvation by believing in the promised Messiah. The entire book of Romans assures us that while the promised Messiah came from Abraham’s Jewish blood line, salvation is offered to the entire world. 

After all, is God the God of the Jews only? Isn’t he also the God of the Gentiles? Of course he is. There is only one God, and he makes people right with himself only by faith, whether they are Jews or Gentiles. Romans 3:29-30 NLT

Yes, Adam’s one sin brings condemnation for everyone, but Christ’s one act of righteousness brings a right relationship with God and new life for everyone. Romans 5:18 NLT

It is important that we keep in mind that the entire book of Romans is clear that salvation is offered to everyone regardless of whether they are Jew or Gentile. Romans 9 is not grappling with who is chosen to be saved, but rather who was chosen to be ancestors of the promised Messiah who would bring salvation to the entire world. 

In the words of the Scriptures, “I loved Jacob, but I rejected Esau.” Romans 9:13 NLT

This does not mean that God rejected Esau for salvation. It only means that God rejected Esau from having the birthright and being the ancestor of the promised Messiah. Jacob was preferred to be the ancestor of the promised Messiah. In the KJV it says, Jacob have I loved but Esau have I hated.” It is important for us to see how the KJV uses the word hate and even more important how Jesus uses the word hate. 

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26 KJV 

Of course Jesus did not mean we must hate our families the way we think of hate today. Love and hate show our preferences. To love means to put another first and to hate means to put another last. The NLT helps clarify this idea. 

If you want to be my disciple, you must, by comparison, hate everyone else—your father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even your own life. Otherwise, you cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26 NLT 

So the NLT also helps clarify how the KJV is using the word hate when God says He loves Jacob but hated Esau. Eternal salvation is not the issue. God simple preferred Jacob to have the blessing of being the promised Messiah’s ancestor over Esau. 

Are we saying, then, that God was unfair? Of course not! For God said to Moses, “I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.” So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it. For the Scriptures say that God told Pharaoh, “I have appointed you for the very purpose of displaying my power in you and to spread my fame throughout the earth.” So you see, God chooses to show mercy to some, and he chooses to harden the hearts of others so they refuse to listen. Well then, you might say, “Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven’t they simply done what he makes them do?” No, don’t say that. Who are you, a mere human being, to argue with God? Should the thing that was created say to the one who created it, “Why have you made me like this?”  When a potter makes jars out of clay, doesn’t he have a right to use the same lump of clay to make one jar for decoration and another to throw garbage into? In the same way, even though God has the right to show his anger and his power, he is very patient with those on whom his anger falls, who are destined for destruction. He does this to make the riches of his glory shine even brighter on those to whom he shows mercy, who were prepared in advance for glory. And we are among those whom he selected, both from the Jews and from the Gentiles. Romans 9:14-24 NLT 

Some take these words to mean that God chooses some people to be lost without any choice of their own, but this clearly is not idea of this passage. After all, none of us deserve salvation in the first place. God is not defending His right to not save people. We all have sinned and deserve death. In this passage God is only defending His right to be merciful. You may not believe what I am saying, but stay with me! In a moment the Bible is going to explain this passage itself.

Meanwhile let’s understand what God is talking about when he says the potter makes one jar for decoration and another for holding garbage. Again this is not talking about eternal salvation. It simply means, once again, that  some were chosen to be a part of the promised Messiah’s bloodline while others were not. Paul also tells us that God uses some of us to glorify God by being honored and He uses some of us to glorify God through our suffering. For example, Elijah honored God by being taken into heaven in a chariot of fire. John the Baptist honored God by being beheaded in a lonely prison cell. Did God love Elijah more than John the Baptist? No way! Is Elijah the only one of the two who are eternally saved? Not at all! Both are saved, but one the Potter used as a jar for decoration, while the other was used as a garbage jar. Both have their part in the big picture of salvation. Both are dearly loved by God. Romans 9:14-24 is making the point that God honors some and dishonors others in order to save the entire world. 

Concerning the Gentiles, God says in the prophecy of Hosea, “Those who were not my people, I will now call my people. And I will love those whom I did not love before.” And, “Then, at the place where they were told, ‘You are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘children of the living God. And concerning Israel, Isaiah the prophet cried out, “Though the people of Israel are as numerous as the sand of the seashore, only a remnant will be saved. For the Lord will carry out his sentence upon the earth quickly and with finality.” And Isaiah said the same thing in another place: “If the Lord of Heaven’s Armies had not spared a few of our children, we would have been wiped out like Sodom, destroyed like Gomorrah.” Romans 9:25-29 NLT 

Instead of saying that God only wants Jews to be saved this passage is telling us God plans to save Gentiles as well as Jews. Romans 9 is not about God having the right to deny anyone salvation. It is about His right to save the entire world. Now so there will not be any confusion on this point Paul is about to sum it up. The Bible is about to explain itself as I promised. 

What does all this mean? Romans 9:30 NLT 

Okay here is our cue to pay close attention. To avoid all confusion about the meaning of Romans 9 Paul is getting ready to tell us exactly what it all means. 

What does all this mean? Even though the Gentiles were not trying to follow God’s standards, they were made right with God. And it was by faith that this took place. But the people of Israel, who tried so hard to get right with God by keeping the law, never succeeded. Why not? Because they were trying to get right with God by keeping the law instead of by trusting in him. They stumbled over the great rock in their path. God warned them of this in the Scriptures when he said, “I am placing a stone in Jerusalem that makes people stumble, a rock that makes them fall. But anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.” Romans 9:30-33 NLT 

Does Paul tell us that everything we just read in Romans 9 is about predestination? No! It is about how we are all saved, Jews and Gentiles alike – not by our national heritage, works or legalism. We are all saved, Jews and Gentiles alike, by believing in the promised Messiah who came through Abraham’s ancestry. As God told Abraham, “All the families on earth will be blessed through you.” See Genesis 12:3. The Jews were not preferred above the Gentiles for salvation. The Jews were only preferred to be the ones who would give birth to the Messiah Who was  promised to every nation. 

I will shake all the nations, and the treasures of all the nations will be brought to this Temple. I will fill this place with glory, says the Lord of Heaven’s Armies. Haggai 2:7 NLT 

Let’s not make the same mistake many Jews made in the days of Jesus and the days of Paul. Let’s not trust our national or even our religious affiliations to save us. Let’s not trust our works or legalism to save us. Let’s put all our hope in our only hope- the Promised Messiah.

As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.” Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10:11-13 NLT 

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No Blacksmiths Allowed! Is Disempowerment a Biblical Principle?

May 26, 2021 By admin

19 May 2021  | This week’s ATSS conversation will be based on this article by Christopher C. Thompson. Excerpt: On Thanksgiving Day 2019, I spent the majority of the day on the road. I left home fairly early with my wife, my son, and my nephew. We got on the road and drove eight hours […] Source: https://atoday.org/70180-2/

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Susan – “For Such a Time as This”

May 26, 2021 By admin



#BCStewardshipStories Susan Featherby, Lakeview Christian School (LCS) Board Chair shares an incredible miracle story about our school in the southern part of Vancouver Island. She is an eyewitness and a visionary that saw the way God intervened by using Adventist and non-Adventist parents of the students of our school to plead for the school to remain open and serve as a haven for their children. The 2016-2017 school year was nearly 2/3 complete when a vote was taken to close the school in the following school year. Then, individual parents “knocked at the doors of the constituent church pastors and school administration” to request them to not let the school die. The projection was that the school would experience a $70,000 deficit at end of the school year and enrolment would be minimal for the following year. Well… not really. Prayers, visitations, hard work and a renewed vision were put in place. When the school year ended, the $70,000 deficit became a $2,000 surplus. The school remained open and 17 students were enrolled. On the following year 40+ students attended the school; then nearly 60 and this year 92 students are happily enrolled at the school. With this renewed vison and much prayer and dedication, the indicators point that over 100 students will be attending LCS next year. The secret? Much prayer, dependence on God, vision, hard work, and a ministry of friendship in the local community! About 70% of the students come from non-Adventist homes – what a mission field. Those parents love to send their children to LCS and are the first to support it in every aspect. At the end of last year, with the support of the BC Board of Directors, a new property was acquired to provide space for an expansion of LCS, aiming to start offering High School for its students – God is wonderful. This video will keep all of those who watch it glued to their seats. The BC Conference Administration, its Office of Education and the LCS Constituency are in one mind and one purpose to support the growth of LCS. Our schools are the best place for our children, as great supporters of our homes and churches to inspire our children to find the joy and wisdom that only Jesus can provide. THANK YOU, BC Conference members for your desire and special support given to our schools. Many of our students will be in heaven because of such unified vision, by God’s grace! Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD-YVYOIW18

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Sharing Scripture–May 23-29, 2021

May 26, 2021 By admin

This is a tool for you to use if you lead a Sabbath School (SS) class or small group. It is keyed to the Bible texts used in the current week’s Adult SS lesson and includes a brief story from current news you can use to introduce the discussion and then a series of discussion […] Source: https://atoday.org/sharing-scripture-may-23-29-2021/

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Grow Your Own Fruit and Veg

May 26, 2021 By admin

Anmarie Anderson from Gloucester Seventh-day Adventist church has always loved gardening from a young age. Her father being a farmer enabled her to grow up around plants and fresh food and develop a deep insight into the fine art of horticulture.
Speaking of her passion for gardening Anmarie said, “for me gardening is very relaxing, I don’t see it as work, I enjoy it and it keeps me busy and fit I love being in nature and gardening provides the best of both worlds. I am in nature, enjoying the…Source: https://adventist.uk/news/article/go/2021-05-27/grow-your-own-fruit-and-veg/

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Dudley House School Art Exhibition

May 26, 2021 By admin

As the country begins to open up after months of lockdown, Dudley House School embarked on a collaborative school venture on 25 May – the staging of their own art gallery experience. For one day only, the school entrance, the large hall and one of the classrooms were completely transformed and dressed with collage, printing, weaving, painting and sculpture that the children had created during an art themed day earlier in the term and art lessons.
The school has always prided itself on valuing…Source: https://adventist.uk/news/article/go/2021-05-26/dudley-house-school-art-exhibition/

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Learn About the Trinity

May 26, 2021 By admin



God the Father is supreme and is all-powerful. His Son, Jesus, came to earth as both God and human to save us from eternal death. The Holy Spirit, just as much a person as He is God, leads us to truth. Working together as one God, the Trinity is the Source of all things good. This video will help you understand this beautiful truth about God. Blog: https://www.ibelievebible.com/trinity/ ___
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Socialight 11 – Imparare dalle paure

May 26, 2021 By admin



In questa nuova puntata di Socialight, Benjamin ci porta una tematica del tutto importante: la paura. Come farle fronte? Come leggerla e uscire vittorioso? Ascolta l’intero episodio e scopri la chiave per vincere le tue paure. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp6LBkrUtgQ

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Mettere Dio al primo posto – 29 maggio 2021

May 26, 2021 By admin



Mini devotional – Cosa possiamo imparare dai Farisei Collocare Dio al primo posto può essere difficile. Cosa possiamo imparare da Gesù per riuscire a raggiungere oggi questo scopo nella nostra vita? Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI9ckc5Mwc8

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Thursday: Remembering the Sabbath

May 26, 2021 By admin

“Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Exodus 20:8).

The Sabbath was and is a sign for man to “remember.” The use of the word remember can serve various functions. First, to remember something implies looking backward, looking to the past. In this case, the Sabbath points us to the fiat Creation, which climaxed in the institution of the Sabbath as a weekly day of rest and special communion with God.

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The injunction to remember has implications also for the present. We are not only to “remember” the Sabbath (Exodus 20:8); we are to “observe” and “keep” it (see Deuteronomy 5:12, RSV). Thus, the Sabbath has important implications for us now, in the present.

Finally, remembering the Sabbath also points us forward. The person who remembers the keeping of the Sabbath has a promising, rich, and meaningful future with the Lord of the Sabbath. He or she remains in the covenant relationship, because he or she remains in the Lord. Again, when we understand the covenant to be a relationship between God and humankind, the Sabbath, which can greatly help strengthen that relationship, comes into specific prominence.

Indeed, in remembering Creation and its Creator, God’s people also remember God’s gracious acts of salvation (see Deuteronomy 5:14, where the Sabbath is seen, in this context, as a sign of deliverance from Egypt, a symbol of the ultimate salvation found in God). Creation and re-creation belong together. The former makes the latter possible. The Sabbath is a sign that communicates that God is the Creator of the world and the Creator of our salvation.

“By keeping His Sabbath holy we are to show that we are His people. His Word declares the Sabbath to be a sign by which to distinguish the commandment-keeping people … Those who keep the law of God will be one with Him in the great controversy commenced in heaven between Satan and God.” — Ellen G. White, Selected Messages, book 2, p. 160.

Look at this statement from the Lord’s servant. What is it about the Sabbath that makes it something that can distinguish us as “the commandment-keeping people” more so than, perhaps, any of the other commandments?

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